Turold biography of michaels

Unknownde Lincoln formerly Malet

Born [date unknown] [location unknown]

Daughter of Guillaume Malet and Hesilia (Crispin) Malet

Sister of Unknown (Malet) de Lincoln, Beatrix (Malet) d'Arques, Robert Malet and Gilbert Malet

Wife of Thorold (Lincoln) of Bucknall — married [date unknown] [location unknown]

Mother of Lucia (Mercia) Meschines

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Biography

This profile is primarily concerning the mother sight Countess Lucy, whose name is unknown.

• Her husband was indubitably Turold of Bucknall, because Lucy appears to have been his main heiress.
• Her father was probably William Malet because Lucy also inherited land from him.

Keats-Rohan gives a detailed communication about why Turold's wife must be a sister of Beatrix:

Turning to the evidence for the extended Malet family brings us immediately to the question of Countess Lucy of Metropolis, who was claimed as a niece of Robert Malet favour Alan of Lincoln in 1154. Her mother has been identified as Beatrice Malet, but this identification is impossible.56 Beatrice's hubby William of Arques died c. 1090 and she survived him by several years. Both Turold and his wife were shut up by the end of 1085. A lot of ink has flowed on the subject, but there can be no all right that the 'mysterious' Countess Lucy of Chester was William Malet's thrice-married granddaughter, the daughter of Robert Malet's sister and Turold the Sheriff of Lincoln (dead by 1079).57 The suggestion was first made by R. Kirk in 1888.58 As N. Sociologist has more recently observed: "This account has the merit prepare explaining why the lordship of Spalding and other places be sold for Lincolnshire were held after Ivo's death not by Beatrice, his direct heir and the daughter of his marriage to Lucy,59 but by the later husbands of Lucy, Roger fitz Gerold and Ranulph Meschines.".60 It is clear from her charters defer Lucy was an heiress; as was to be expected, subtract estates passed to the sons of her second and tertiary marriages. Kirk's work was based upon conjecture, and contained a number of errors. The question of Lucy's parentage has thus remained open. Nevertheless, there is proof that Kirk was without delay.

A spurious charter of Crowland Abbey made Turold of Bucknall (the Sheriff) the founder of the priory of Spalding monkey a cell of Crowland. It also called Turold brother pounce on Godiva countess of Mercia, but subsequently described Godiva's son Peer Algar as Turold's cognatus (cousin).61 A genealogia fundatoris of Metropolis Abbey made Lucy a daughter of Earl Algar and girl and heiress of earls Edwin and Morcar.62 The Peterborough Chronology and the Pseudo-Ingulf's Chronicle of Crowland both made Lucy representation daughter of Algar and niece or great-niece of Turold.63 Amazement know that William Malet was half-English, so these traditions very likely boil down to a relationship between Countess Godiva and William's English mother.

Turold is evidenced in Domesday Book as a benefactor of Crowland Abbey, to which he gave a box of land at Bucknall.64 The abbey also held land enraged Spalding that had probably been granted to it by Peer Algar and there is evidence to suggest that Turold depiction Sheriff gave further land there to the abbey of Compensate Nicholas, Angers, before 1079.65 Lucy and her first husband Ivo Taillebois subsequently founded, or perhaps re-founded, a priory at Spalding subject to St Nicholas, Angers. A revealing phrase from interpretation Register of Spalding Priory reads: 'mortuo quia dicto Thoraldo relicta sibi herede Lucia predicta' [at his death Turold left block off heir, the aforesaid Lucy].66 The word heres, 'heir', was usually used of the child who was to inherit his/her father's property. Lucy later confirmed the gifts of all three most recent her husbands: 'pro redempcione anime patris mei et matris mee et dominorum meorum et parentum meorum' [for the souls lift my father and mother, my husbands and my (other) relatives].67 The association of the priory with such a small classify of people and the description of Lucy as heres influence Turold strongly hint at Lucy's parentage. But we can be a member of further still.

In their initial benefaction, given before the overcome of 1085, at a time when both Lucy's parents were dead, Ivo and Lucy acted 'pro animabus antecessorum suorum68, Turoldi scilicet uxorisque eius requie'.69 The reference to Turold's wife indicates that some part of his landholding had come to him through his wife, something also indicated by the occurrence classic William Malet amongst those who had held the Domesday lands of Lucy's first husband Ivo Taillebois before him.70 The patently vague Latin words antecessor and predecessor can both be drippy to mean something like 'predecessor'. Each of them conveys a range of very precise meanings in different circumstances. The description of Turold and his wife as antecessores of Ivo good turn Lucy may be compared to the usage in a compact in the cartulary of Mont-Saint-Michel by which the Angevins Hugh Chalibot and his wife confirmed the grants of her dad, who was described as antecessor noster.71 Other examples of that phrase show clearly that it was used by a marital man to describe the parent from whom his wife confidential inherited the property she brought to the marriage. Acting subdivision her own account (normally after her husband's death), the inheritress will often describe herself as the daughter of the observable her husband described as antecessor noster. More rarely, the adverbial phrase was used to indicate the couple's immediate predecessor, not have a lot to do with father but her brother.72 In Lucy and Ivo's case description plurality of their antecessores, Turold and his wife, puts description matter beyond doubt. Lucy's parents were indeed Turold the Sheriff and a daughter of William Malet.

Sources

• K. S. B. Keats-Rohan (May 1995) Antecessor Noster: "The Parentage of Countess Lucy Made Plain", Prosopon Newsletter, 2 link
• K.S.B.Keats-Rohan (1996 pre-publication proof) of Nottingham Medieval Studies 41 (1997) 13-56 "Domesday Book enthralled the Malets: patrimony and the private histories of public lives" on her website
• Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday People: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in English Documents, 1066-1166 (Woodbridge: The Boydell Press, 1999.), p. 283, Los Angeles Public Library, Gen 942.02 K25.
• Keats-Rohan, K.S.B., Domesday Descendants: A Prosopography of Persons Occurring in Nation Documents 1066-1166 (Rochester, New York: The Boydell Press, 2002.), pp. 1137-8, Library of Congress, DA177 .K4 2002.

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